I don't know anything about this fellow, but it says that he studied at Wellington University in New Zealand. As far as I know there is no such university in NZ, certainly not at the time given when he graduated. I assume the university was called at the time, Victoria University or University of Victoria, I forget which of these two was the official name. Much later after the so-called Dawkins Revolution in Australia that created new universities, a university in Australia started being called Victoria University. To avoid confusion the very old Victoria University located in Wellington New Zealand started to be referred to as Victoria University of Wellington. It may even have officially changed its name to this. Anyway, you may wish to update your page on "Gerald Fredrick Töben" to correctly reflect this name of the university. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.177.108.35 (talk • contribs) 4 August 2019 (UTC)
See the discussion. Without more people weighing in, I can't say what the consensus will be, but it might be that I need to write a dramatically different blurb, depending on whether there's an image or not. If so, that would mean that it's important never to pull an image in the last few days before the article runs. Would that restriction work for you? - Dank (push to talk) 22:44, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Such edits are best avoided when feasible, but certain unforseen circumstances (such as copyright issues) can leave us with no choice but to pull an image. Unfortunately, this tends to occur during or shortly before its appearance on the main page, due to the increased number of eyes.
Regardless, I can't see the "write longer blurbs" proposal gaining much traction (for reasons covered in the discussion). Users' differing configurations result in a moving target, which is something that persons complaining typically don't realize.
To the limited extent that main page balance can be actively achieved through deliberate measures, existing solutions (recycling DYK hooks and/or pruning old ITN items) are simpler and provide greater flexibility with less editorial compromise. —David Levy17:49, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, last question, for Espresso Addict: was there a conversation that I'm not aware of where it was agreed that, when there's no image, the TFA blurb should go over the max limit (which used to be around 1175 and is currently around 1075)? If so, could you link it? - Dank (push to talk) 17:28, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I don't recall anywhere it was discussed with the participation of the TFA team but it's a perennial complaint at Errors that the TFA is too short because there's no image, and so OTD & News must each lose an item. (This is sometimes less convenient eg recently when the image has been in the oldest item for several days.) TFA people might overlook such discussions because they usually occur under the OTD/ITN sections. If I'm on duty at the changeover time, I tend just to silently prune OTD/ITN myself when it's very unbalanced without waiting for someone to note it at Errors, and others do so too.
I can see that sometimes the image gets pulled at the last minute, but where there's known in advance to be no available free image, I can't see why a longer blurb could not be planned and agreed. Espresso Addict (talk) 17:42, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I wasn't aware of that ... I only read below the TFA section at WP:ERRORS from time to time. One thing we could do is revisit the discussion to run fair use images on the Main Page, just at TFA and just because of this conflict ... but I really think it would be a bad idea to even discuss that before the European Parliament meeting in September where they might vote on an awful copyright bill. Every blurb left in July has an image, and August hasn't been scheduled yet. When I see what's coming up in August, and then in September, I'll ping everyone after the blurbs for the TFAs without images have been written. I'm not making any promises; we'll have to gauge the reactions. - Dank (push to talk) 17:57, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging Espresso Addict and @TFA coordinators, as promised above. Wehwalt has shared his selections for September with the coords, and there are (probably) only 3 that don't have suitable images: John de Gray, From Russia, with Love (novel), and Guy Burgess. (Btw, Ealdgyth, John de Gray was your nom ... hard to imagine there's a suitable image, but if you know of one, that would be nice.) Writing longer blurbs for those three shouldn't be a problem. Wehwalt is planning to do the scheduling at the end of this week, so if anyone sees a problem with blurb length, please let me know. - Dank (push to talk) 18:55, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I know of no image for de Gray. The ODNB entry for him lists none either, not even a tomb effigy. It's possible there is a tomb still extant - I didn't make it to Norwich Cathedral when I was in England in 2010 - but it's also possible there isn't. Ealdgyth - Talk19:02, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hey David, thanks for your edit to this. Any chance you could also add back in the hyphen in "ship-burial" that was recently removed? There's some inconsistency in when the hyphen is, or is not removed (including within the Sutton Hoo article), but it's in the official publication of the burial, and most other related publications authored by the British Museum. Thanks, --Usernameunique (talk) 21:55, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(watching:) If you feel strongly about it you can do it yourself. I wouldn't, though, it seems to be understood the same way with or without hyphen. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:23, 14 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Usernameunique is referring to the TFA blurb, which is protected.
When multiple stylings are considered correct, we generally stick with whichever is used in the featured article. In this instance, that's the hyphenated form, so a reversion might be prudent.
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This is the only October blurb image I'm worried about. I'd like to suggest the 16th-century bell tower ... it's what's left of the abbey where he was the abbot. (You might want to check out the images in the October 7 article, too.) - Dank (push to talk) 01:48, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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It's isn't a subst:. It's the manual replacement of {{TFAIMAGE}} with {{main page image}} and its accompanying markup. (This could be accomplished via subst: by embedding it in another template, but I've always simply copied and pasted.)
The use of {{main page image}} is necessary when displaying a caption, for which the older {{TFAIMAGE}} lacks support. That doesn't apply in this instance, but I routinely use the newer code if and when performing any image-related TFA edit (which simplifies the subsequent addition of a caption in the event that this is deemed appropriate). —David Levy00:45, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm thinking that "saal" (hall) and "schloss" (castle) will mean nothing to most of our readers, and that we shouldn't give two dense descriptions of the image ... one should be enough. Beyond that, I don't have any preference for what or where the description is. Thoughts? - Dank (push to talk) 00:17, 29 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Can you protect the newest image on Commons please, or is there a better way? Uploading locally and protecting is very janky. What's the best solution so I don't have this hassle all the time? JehochmanTalk21:35, 2 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I protected File:Ultima thule color.jpg (the version in use on the main page) at the Wikimedia Commons before making the replacement.
Dan: For main page images, we typically use "shown" in such contexts. I've edited the blurb accordingly. (I also compiled a thumbnail-friendly map.) —David Levy03:51, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, in photography class I learned that it's okay to show part of a human body (like a head-and-shoulders shot), but you always have to show the whole body of an animal, because otherwise it looks weird. Sorry to say, but this crop looks weird. Yoninah (talk) 00:01, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Feb 2: Some readers might think the coin pictured is one of the two mentioned in the blurb (and I don't know if it is, but it's used in the article to depict Coenwulf, not to depict the coin). Maybe if we keep just the obverse in the image? Don't know. - Dank (push to talk) 18:09, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
File:Khalid al-mihdhar 2.jpg is tagged as PD, but I'm not sure that this is accurate. (The author is listed as "US Government", but it's clear only that the US government presented the photograph to the public, not that it actually created it.) This matter probably should be addressed on the article's talk page before it appears as TFA. If that turns out to be a fair-use image (or its status is unknown), File:DM-SD-02-03886.JPEG seems like a reasonable option. —David Levy21:05, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
David, can you think of an option for the image other than the producer David Garfinkle or the host Madison Michele? Aoba47, can you find a free image, or reach out to David Garfinkle and Madison Michele to try to get one? - Dank (push to talk) 18:21, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the ping, and I will try to reach out to both for a picture. I will also check Flickr again as there may have been some new uploads since I have not checked there since the article's FAC. I will keep you post about it. Aoba47 (talk) 18:25, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Dank: I have added an image of Michele to the article, which can also be added to the blurb. The image was taken from Flickr, and was marked as public domain. Aoba47 (talk) 22:23, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Last one: Feb 25: We need an image of concept art, or possibly one for Robert McLees or Vic DeLeon. - Dank (push to talk) 20:37, 27 January 2019 (UTC) In a pinch, we can use an image of Martin O'Donnell, who did the sound design and music. I've asked for help on the article's talk page. - Dank (push to talk) 16:14, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Brilliant work, as always, David. I've asked the TFA coords for help finishing up here. For Feb 8, I'd like to know if anyone has an opinion on which image to run, or if we should run an image at all, even if we can. We might take some heat for this one. (I don't have an opinion either way on running the Pentagon image. I'd probably prefer not to run his face.) - Dank (push to talk) 21:17, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Trying to get the Inter-Allied Women's Conference on the front page for its centennial. The photo of the organizer,[3] is awful, but in PD. Looks like what appeared in the newspaper was cropped from this[4] as hair, necklace, dress, pose, etc. is the same. I have no idea how to re-upload a better photo, but Yoninah thought you might be able to help upload a better copy of the image. Can you? If so, please ping me and thanks! SusunW (talk) 19:18, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
SusunW: Victuallers replaced the low-quality crop with the version to which you linked, which I then enhanced. The current file is suitable for use on the main page. —David Levy23:44, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi David, you seem to be doing an almost daily resizing of images for a particular part of the main page, would it be worthwhile dropping a line to the relevant page to ensure this doesn't have to be double-checked and fixed each and every time? Just a thought. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:08, 8 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The image templates in use on the main page incorporate default sizing parameters that generally work reasonably well (but not as well as case-by-case judgement, which isn't in everyone's wheelhouse).
I check most of the main page's images for various issues, including sizing. One of the primary objectives is achieving some level of consistency among the different sections, with the specific approach (matching width, matching height, similar overall size, or some combination of those) varying from day to day (depending on the images, their aspect ratios, and whether they lend themselves to custom cropping).
Realistically, this requires the attention of one editor across all of the sections. I took on the task (which obviously isn't essential) as a byproduct of the frequency with which I found myself performing edits to address concerns related to individual images. Somewhere along the way, it became easier and more productive to simply make this a part of my regular routine than to wait for problems to arise (at which point I'd often be pinged, given many editors' relative unfamiliarity with such matters), and one of the featured article coordinators asked me to assume this role at TFA on a more formal basis.
So most of the edits that you've noticed fell into the category of "I might as well tweak this while I'm at it", not "something is urgently in need of fixing". It's just a bit of polish that I add as I'm passing through, not an indication of deficiency on anyone's part. —David Levy23:00, 8 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sca: It's possible, but not without drawbacks. I actually reduced the image's cropping earlier today. Before I did so, our transclusion at ITN lacked full support for displays with higher pixel densities. (The width and height selected cannot exceed half of the image's native width and height – in this instance, a 120x160px layout of a 240x320px image.) So if the bottom were cropped, we'd have to either use a smaller size than usual (e.g., 120x120px instead of 140x140px) or eliminate the aforementioned support for certain screens. —David Levy21:54, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Just two lacking images: the 26th and 29th. I can't think of a suitable image for the 29th. For the 26th, there are options I guess; we might take something from the Ian Fleming article, or File:Sean Connery 1971.jpg from the TFA article, if you think it's relevant enough. - Dank (push to talk) 21:05, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry - it looks like two of "mine" are the ones causing problems! I'd be happy with the hangman's equipment, although it may be a bit cluttered in small size; I'm not a huge fan of showing pics of a different person than the article, but not enough to worry if you two decide on the Amery/Joyce one. The only other one would be his death mask, which hangs just behind the noose. (The hands could be cropped out of that one if necessary). - SchroCat (talk) 19:57, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
ps. For the Bond one, I'd avoid Connery (Bond purists like me get irked when the films and novels are conflated!). Perhaps the diamond miners image in the article? - SchroCat (talk) 19:58, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Could you take a look at the March 1 image rendition? I am still wondering how to get the rectangle relatively right (right now, to me it has too much whitespace below). It might better correspond with three lines of text? I can upload a different image if you need one. -DePiep (talk) 22:39, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yep. On my mobile screen this image takes "2.5" text lines leaving a "0.5" text line white below. Can you stretch the image vertically, a bit? -DePiep (talk) 23:58, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
DePiep: As I mentioned previously, you seem to be describing an issue that depends on a user's display settings. Did the size adjustment that I just performed help on your end? —David Levy01:05, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it is UA side. Is why I kept saying "In my desktop screen..." etc. But hey: your edit is great! Over here, it now leaves no excessive whitespace. Thanks & compliments. -DePiep (talk) 01:09, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Btw, I'm going to be tied up with another project starting on the 13th for almost a month ... if there are any image issues I'll need to deal with, please let me know over the next week. - Dank (push to talk) 22:52, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I see you thanked me for my edit at the main page protected image page... Thanks for the thanks That actually raises an interesting point, of which you are probably already aware but which we can sometimes forget if we're not careful. Normally TFA images are protected by cascading protection, which kicks in the day before they come on to the main page. But that doesn't apply if an image is swapped out for another one. In the case of your edit this morning, you switched the TFA image at 08:08, but it was not yet protected at that point and the bot which finds protected images didn't kick in until 08:11. So technically a vandal could have uploaded a porn file in those three minutes and it would have appeared on the main page. Unlikely I know, but it's better to be safe than sorry! That's why I uploaded the present image to Wikipedia:Main Page/Commons media protection first and waited for it to appear at Commons:Auto-protected files/wikipedia/en before saving it to the TFA template. Thanks, and all the best. — Amakuru (talk) 21:31, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, I sincerely appreciate your care in cascade-protecting the image before swapping it in. I created WP:CMP to simplify the process as much as possible, but administrators don't always know/remember that step (and I find myself writing reminders not unlike the one above).
Regarding the 8:08 TFA image transclusion, I'm an administrator at the Wikimedia Commons, where I protected the image at 8:06 (so the cascading protection that took effect at 8:11 was redundant).
Nonetheless, thanks very much for taking the time to message me. It's nice to know that others are paying attention to this matter. —David Levy22:46, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Aha, so my comment was a bit like explaining particle physics to Einstein then! It didn't occur to me that you had protected the image directly so that makes sense. And I'm glad we're on the same page regarding the importance of protecting those images. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 23:36, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Could you please increase the death toll for Idai (for in the news) to at least 205 per the addition to the article? NoahTalk02:56, 17 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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I possess the technical capability, but it isn't a task in which I specialize.
I can tell you that this isn't an unusual amount of vandalism for the featured article (whose exposure invariably attracts increased attention). Unless the problem becomes unmanageable, it's desirable to leave editing enabled for all users (including those without accounts), given that it might be a newcomer's first attempt to contribute to the project.
A newcomer's first attempt to contribute to the project should not be at a complete article, on the day it is featured for visitors to the main page to see. These articles are supposed to represent the project's best, but leaving them vulnerable to these kind of edits--the word "was" was removed from the lead; earlier it was simply defaced--is embarrassing. I was told by Dank that on main page day, these articles would probably get protection automatically. What happened? How can--on the day this article will get significant attention and readership--it be left so exposed? Its topic is not popular, and practically no one will likely read it after today. Disappointing. Dan56 (talk) 13:04, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
If the situation worsens or you wish to seek other administrators' opinions, please see Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. (For the record, I'm fine with whatever determination might be made there. I'm about to sleep, so I won't be available to provide input.)
I made a request there 12 hours ago, and it has remained unaddressed so far; since then the article has been vandalized by IPs several more times. Dan56 (talk) 13:00, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate your replacement of the image, by the way; it looks much more attractive now.
Dan: I just returned and found your messages. I'm genuinely sorry that this matter has been a source of anxiety for you, and I'm glad that it's been addressed.
The issue of whether (and how) to protect articles articles appearing as TFA is longstanding. At one time, the prevailing practice was to avoid protecting them in all but the most dire of circumstances. Nowadays, they're treated more like other articles.
I understand the frustration of seeing the product of hard work left vulnerable, which must be balanced with the frustration experienced by someone greeted with the words "Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit" and immediately pointed to an article that they're unable to edit. Perhaps some of them would have gone on to write future Featured Articles, had they not been discouraged in that pivotal moment.
To be clear, I'm summarizing a common argument, not advocating a particular course of action. This falls outside my primary areas of focus, so I'm not familiar with every aspect of the current day-to-day TFA protection conventions. Others are more qualified to delve into such details. (Sorry again, but I don't want to convey inaccurate information.) —David Levy14:26, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
If an article you care a lot about is going to appear on the main page (FA, DYK, ITN) you're going to have to keep a constant vigil for vandalism throughout the day. It's part of the price of fame. EEng14:39, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
What is this burden of fame that associates me with these people lol. I simply care about the quality of the article, at an opportunity of exposing knowledge of the topic to readers; for their sake and the topic's. As editors, contributors, admins, we should share the burden of doing the most to prevent disruption. Next time, if another of my FAs is chosen for this "burden," I hope to remember and have the foresight to ask earlier for page protection. Dan56 (talk) 17:37, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No, really, that's the wrong approach, for the reasons DL gave above. You just need to keep your eye on it for the day. EEng21:20, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Translat-a-thon NYC 2019 @ LaGuardia Community College is hosting the second annual Wikipedia Translatathon! At this event on Thursday evening and during the day Friday this week, anyone from the public is invited to LaGuardia to join students, professors, and CUNY faculty in translating Wikipedia articles among any languages which attendees understand. Themes for this event include public health and the history of New York City.
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Sorry, bad day, too grumpy to talk properly, said things I shouldn't (or at least in a way that I shouldn't), and for that I apologise. - SchroCat (talk) 20:25, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies on my end for any confusion arising from my "no administrative role" note. I would never make such a reference to gain an advantage in a disagreement. My intent was just the opposite.
I routinely handle various image-related tasks for the main page. Others often ask me to resolve issues or indicate that they'll defer to my decision, so I wanted to convey that I was simply commenting as a Wikipedian (and had neither selected the photograph nor assessed the disagreement as a neutral party), lest someone mistakenly assume that I'd addressed the matter in an administrative capacity and no further attention was needed.
Any Wikipedia administrator's use of the sysop bit to purposely attain his/her preferred outcome in a good-faith content dispute is an abuse of the trust placed in him/her by the community. I strive to avoid even the appearance of such misconduct on my part. —David Levy21:36, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi David, I know you're a 'solid' admin, and the thing I am most sorry about was questioning that. I shouldn't have done - over stressed and a crap day in RL. I try to step away from WP when that happens, and should have done so here too, but didn't manage it this time around. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 21:06, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I promised yesterday that it was my last word in the matter. (First words here.) Happy Easter! (When that image on top gets deleted while I'm out singing please replace by the other one from the article.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:12, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, would you be able to enlarge this image so we can see more of the church at thumbnail size? It's nice to see some of the graveyard, but not all of it. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 18:11, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi David--Gerda pinged you from that DYK nom. Apparently you're the expert! Do you think there's anything you can do with that picture, File:Adriaan van Bredehoff en Tabo Jansz.jpg? It'll be weird to see just the one person, the one off-center, and I'm curious. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 22:15, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, this image looks totally unlike the one that I promoted. I think the photographer was deliberately trying to make it look like a painting. I'm afraid to say that whatever you did to it stripped it of all its beauty. Is it possible to restore it just for the article? Yoninah (talk) 21:06, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I think the photographer was deliberately trying to make it look like a painting.
Quoth the photographer: "3 exposure HDR but I tried not to make it too obvious." But it was obvious. Extremely obvious. So obvious that my immediate reaction was "Holy heck, what's going on with this HDR?".
I'm afraid to say that whatever you did to it stripped it of all its beauty.
I eliminated some fairly absurd artifacts and adjusted the levels to shift the colors in the direction of those that exist in real life. I'm sorry that you find the result less aesthetically pleasing.
Is it possible to restore it just for the article?
That's exactly the sort of context in which a wildly inaccurate visual depiction does not belong. A strikingly embellished photo might be suitable for use in an article about image editing techniques or art styles, but its inclusion is jarring and misleading when the intent is to illustrate the subject's actual appearance. —David Levy21:37, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the explanations. You know much more about photos and image settings than me, so I'll abide by your decision. Best, Yoninah (talk) 14:05, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yoninah: I see that it's been cropped out, which is fine. Any issue was purely cosmetic, as releasing a work under a free license doesn't require relinquishment of the copyright. —David Levy21:38, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Stephen: Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Some sort of unusual server issue (causing different users to see different things) must have occurred. (I routinely purge the cache after making any sort of change.) After you posted the above follow-up message, someone else still saw the distortion and performed a reversion at the Wikimedia Commons. This caused the problem to return for others, prompting a sizing reversion at the ITN template.
To eliminate any possibility of continuing this cycle, I've uploaded the new crop as a separate file. Thanks again, and my apologies for setting off this chain of events. —David Levy12:37, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, this image about to go live in the DYK set (Queue 5) looks badly cropped. The head is centered rather than closer to the top. Would you be able to re-crop this? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 18:46, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi David, I hope all is well. Looking at today's blurb, I was wondering why the image has a caption and we have "(pictured)" in the text? I don't look at the front page every day, but don't remember seeing captions before. Is this a new thing, or have I just not noticed it before? Cheers – SchroCat (talk) 20:20, 9 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
SchroCat: It's a longstanding practice, applied only in a minority of cases (generally, those in which the image's subject is merely related to the article's subject and mentioned in the blurb, not those in which it matches the article's subject exactly or doesn't fit well in the summary). —David Levy22:40, 12 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, if you're not able to do this, please let me know and I'll ask someone else. The article is scheduled to go on the main page in two days. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:17, 12 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello, I wondered if you could improve the image of the Great Mosque of Algiers, now in Prep 4, by making the minaret vertical, and perhaps cropping the image suitably. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:22, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Gerda: Heinrich Lübke was the President of the Federal Republic of Germany. At that time, the country was commonly known as West Germany (because the German Democratic Republic, or East Germany, existed simultaneously).
President of West Germany is a redirect (which I bypassed via piping) that term became inapplicable upon the German reunification.
I don't doubt that you're aware of this (and don't mean to imply otherwise), so I'm confused regarding the nature of your objection. —David Levy22:17, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
He was Bundespräsident, or - as you correctly say - President of the Federal Republic of Germany, and I while I accept - with gnawing teeth - to say West Germany in colloquial language, I think that it's not appropriate for the highest position in the country. Germany is enough. The image alone tells that it's not East Germany ;) - Going to bed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:28, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda: I'm unsure of what you mean regarding the image. Specificity is necessary to avoid confusion with the German Democratic Republic (which also had a president). The distinction is less obvious to many readers (particularly those not from Germany) than it might be to you.
I've duplicated the wording/formatting used in the Heinrich Lübke article, wherein "West Germany" appears only parenthetically (and the country is otherwise referred to as "Federal Republic of Germany" or "FR Germany"). I hope that this addresses your concern. —David Levy22:43, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Gerda: To be clear, my above reply predates an additional revision on your part, in which all visible mentions of "West Germany" were removed. I didn't undo that change; my only subsequent edit was to expand one instance of "Germany" to "Federal Republic of Germany" (to avoid confusion with the German Democratic Republic).
Does that address your concern? If not, I'd prefer to continue pursuing a solution that does. My goal is not to tire you into submission. —David Levy05:59, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It addresses some, I'm just waking up, so didn't even look at the article, just the Main page, which says "West Germany". We have an article President of East Germany, but not same of West Germany. Her passport doesn't say West Germany. It's her article, and in a way doesn't even matter. I show her on my talk page - with just President ;) - Thanks for all your image cropping! Could you show just a little bit more bridge here, or get his portrait over (see above)? First thanks in August ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:33, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It addresses some, I'm just waking up, so didn't even look at the article, just the Main page, which says "West Germany".
Gerda: In the DYK section (in which short-form prose appears outside of each subject's full context), it would be highly unusual and unhelpful to refer to the country (as it existed during the time of Lübke's presidency) as anything other than "West Germany". A reunified Germany did not yet exist, and "Federal Republic of Germany" is not sufficiently familiar to most readers to adequately convey the relevant distinction.
It's her article, and in a way doesn't even matter.
Clarity always matters, irrespective of a particular detail's connection to the subject (provided that it warrants inclusion in the article).
Thanks for all your image cropping!
You're quite welcome. In this instance, I also enhanced the parent file. Previous edits resulted in severe degradation, so I used the original upload as my source.
Could you show just a little bit more bridge here, or get his portrait over (see above)?
Thank you, very thoughtful. - I created the article as a response to red links for people with a birthday in May, DYK? I'll be more careful next time, and not pick one who is the wife of a president. As if this wasn't enough, we have a discussion for tomorrow's opera to add not only East German to West German ("West German" by me, imagine! - I can take it as an adjective), but Spanish also. Sigh. "The only real nation is humanity." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:28, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, just a heads-up that this image is in Prep 3. The current crop is good for the article, but could you enlarge the person as you usually do for lead hooks? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 18:03, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I am not understanding why we use the verbose phrase "depiction shown" when "depicted" will do just fine. Word economy is very important on the Main Page and having two words instead of one also makes the blurb more difficult to read without significant interruption. I make sure to credit the author of the image when ever possible. Can you help me understand what is wrong with just saying "depicted"? --- Coffeeandcrumbs18:41, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Coffeeandcrumbs: Unlike "pictured", "depicted" doesn't specifically convey the inclusion of an image. (A concept can be depicted in other forms, such as words.)
In this case, the event is depicted via the image, but that isn't the intended statement; we want to inform readers that an image depicting the event is displayed. —David Levy19:26, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi David, and apologies for not replying sooner to your comment. I recall the issue of RD images coming up before at Errors, and there being a consensus that we should not bring in RD images even when the previous image was quite stale. Certainly the wording of the project page Wikipedia:In_the_news#Pictures says that the picture must be of a person or event mentioned in a blurb. I think that unless this clause is changed by consensus, we should avoid using RD entries as the image. The wildfire image isn't perfect, but it provides a reasonable illustration of the story at the top of the list, and is more useful to readers than a guy who's recently died. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 12:28, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There's no question that ITN's image usually pertains to someone or something mentioned in a blurb – a practice with which I agree.
However, non-ideal circumstances force us to temporarily adjust our pursuits from "best" to "least bad", and that occasionally entails deviating slightly from what's written. (I'm referring to Wikipedia in general, not ITN in particular.)
My personal preference might be to simply display no image at all, but this has proven unpopular. We presumably agree that a six-year-old photograph of an aircraft that crash-landed ten days ago with no fatalities is suboptimal. We also agree that illustrating an ongoing disaster is more useful to readers than displaying an image of a recently deceased person.
The primary area of disagreement pertains to what constitutes a reasonable illustration. On my end, this thumbnail genuinely is difficult to distinguish from a solid black rectangle at first glance. I have normal visual acuity, but only by leaning in and centering it in my field of vision am I able to discern a faint representation of the subject described. This unquestionably falls short of the underlying goals outlined at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility, a guideline for which the importance of adherence exceeds that of the ITN project page.
By cropping the image; reducing the dimensions to 300×300px (the exact display size on high-pixel-density screens); adjusting the levels for increased contrast; and converting the file format from PNG to JPEG, I managed to improve the result, but it remains far from ideal.
Incidentally, I noticed that you experienced a bit of difficulty with the thumbnail's sizing. Note that "x150" sets the width to whatever corresponds to a 150px height. For a 150px width, the "x" should be removed or the number should be changed to the corresponding height. (The height-based formatting is useful for preventing a tightly fit caption from wrapping.) —David Levy18:34, 27 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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It's the last weekend for Camp: Notes on Fashion, and we will have an intro talk to the exhibit by a guest from the Costume Institute, and participants will then be able to visit it on their own. Galleries will be open this evening until 9 pm.
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I forgot to follow up here. Having found no strong evidence pointing in either direction, I was unable to verify the photograph's copyright status. —David Levy22:09, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies for overlooking this inquiry. I agree with Jim's selection of a Rochester Castle photograph, which is sufficiently relevant and more suitable than anything else that I've seen. —David Levy22:09, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Request me to open the block from the commons.Forgive mistakes like this, open the block and give development opportunities I promise not to break the rules later.Skh sourav halder 11:51, 22 September 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skh sourav halder (talk • contribs)
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Duplicate parms in Selected anniversaries/October 1
Davemck and Frietjes: I accidentally left the old width parameter when inserting the link parameter (and failed to notice this when appending the new width parameter at the end). My sincere apologies for the trouble that this oversight caused. —David Levy15:48, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Dan: I agree that the photograph is suitable for use alongside the blurb.
To answer your original question, that logo seems too simplistic to qualify for copyright protection. (It might be trademarked, but that isn't an issue in this context.) —David Levy18:53, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Thank you for image work in October, - the cabal is grateful! - In this image, we don't need so many chairs at the bottom, not the coat on the right, nor so much railing on the left left, but the cross. Can you work the magic? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:52, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The Wikipedia Asian Month Edit-a-thon @ The Met will be hosted at the Metropolitan Museum of Art on Saturday November 16, 2019 in the Bonnie Sacerdote Classroom, Ruth and Harold D. Uris Center for Education (81st Street entrance) at The Met Fifth Avenue in New York City.
The museum is excited to work with Wikipedia Asian Month for the potential to seed new articles about Asian artworks, artwork types, and art traditions, from any part of Asia. These can be illustrated with thousands of its recently-released images of public domain artworks available for Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons from the museum’s collection spanning 5,000 years of art. The event is an opportunity for Wikimedia communities to engage The Met's diverse Asian collections onsite and remotely. Asia Art Archive will host a sister event in Hong Kong next week.
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Thank you! Gerda, I think it looks strange to you because it's not a high-quality image and is a little washed out. But this is how we run person images all the time. Yoninah (talk) 23:22, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Lame! If I had been given twenty seconds' notice I could have reworded some part of the article to match. Or there could have been a delay and a discussion, rather than this last second pulling of the rug. Mr.choppers | ✎ 01:56, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Mr.choppers: I noticed the issue shortly after the DYK set reached the main page. At that point, rewording a hook usually is less disruptive and controversial than pulling it outright, especially when it's in the image slot.
Your comment that "it's a most peculiar vehicle" inspired me to focus on its unusual design, which strikes me as more interesting than the fact that its manufacturer was one of numerous companies in the industry to wind down its operations. It also goes well with your photograph, which serves to illustrate the aforementioned design.
Please note that the wording can be changed again, but it must be factual and encyclopedic in tone. "Last gasp" is idiomatic, so it shouldn't appear in the article or on the main page unless it's a direct quotation attributable to a reliable source. Having checked the article and multiple talk pages (including the nomination page), I was unable to trace the statement to anything other than this edit by Yoninah. If it is attributable to a reliable source, it can easily be added to the article and restored to the hook in the form of a direct quotation. —David Levy03:23, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Idioms can't be used? I never thought DYK was anything but a chatty, friendly kind of feature - one of the few places in WP where I would use them deliberately. The reason it is interesting is that Stutz was a mnaufacturer of luxurious supercars, so the boxy Pak-Age-Car was a strange final chapter for them. As far as replacing the horse, the company used the slogan "Old Dobbins' Last Stand." "Dobbins" is pretty obscure old slang, maybe that ought to have been worked into the hook. Anyhow, thanks for the quick response. Mr.choppers | ✎ 04:22, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Idioms can't be used?
Mr.choppers: Idioms may be used, but not in Wikipedia's voice. Their inclusion can be appropriate if we're quoting someone else (e.g., a magazine writer who referred to the Pak-Age-Car as "Stutz's last gasp").
The reason it is interesting is that Stutz was a mnaufacturer of luxurious supercars, so the boxy Pak-Age-Car was a strange final chapter for them.
That is interesting, but it relies on familiarity with Stutz. I assume that the brand is well known among motor vehicle enthusiasts (as it appears to have several noteworthy historical distinctions), but I'd never heard of either incarnation before tonight. I'm not sure that it would be feasible to incorporate sufficient information into a single hook.
Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free. Ealdgyth - Talk16:24, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Together, we'll expand Wikipedia articles on American history and art, and the understanding that all communities bring to American culture, as reflected in the Met collection up until ca. 1900.
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Thank you very much! I agree that the closeup might be clearer, but having a lot of flowers together shows the shape of the stigmas more clearly. Yoninah (talk) 12:56, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]